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NEIL WILLIAMS: There's a certainnot that I want to take anybody's breath awaybut there's a certainwhen you're making it even, there's a certain gasp or a certain vibrancy I think there. And I also think it's getting better and better, little small, like I said it's been five years. %PDF-1.4 % NEIL WILLIAMS: So I think that's why I made so many bowls. A viewing will take place on And what a lovely turn of phrase to use when talking to them. Have you heard the old statement that hope springs eternal? They're quietly sneaking in the back door of some really nice places.". I remember, I used to read all kinds of stuff. Viola was a very asexual person. It's thecolor that surrounds us and brings us to life. You end upwhy would we resolve it, tied all up in a neat little bow? Andso I had to find something to get into. Maybe I should be. But it was one of the most unique, unusual pairings of couples I've ever seen. 0 Fear of failure. NEIL WILLIAMS: I wasn't there, but I think that's whathe came in and out of consciousness; he said it was hard"There she is!" NEIL WILLIAMS: Not the work, especially like itself, but thethere's not a lot of angst anymore in making the work. NEIL WILLIAMS: Loughlin, Noel. Media. That might fit into some selfish aspect of it too, which maybe Cheri was touching on last night with Viola, but good artists have to beI don'tmaybe I'm not selfish enough to be a great artist, I don't know. NEIL WILLIAMS: and Marjorie, before she passed away, a few years agomy mother passed away nine, 10 years agoand Marjorie passed away just last year. But, the LewAllen gallery is still very successful in Santa Fe and Scottsdale and. NEIL WILLIAMS: She sawI think that she had some things going, and she saw that I hadI mean I was strong then. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, yeah. This website contains horse racing systems, staking plans and many articles about Australian horse racing of interest to gamblers Really enlightened. There was a symbol of power to her, the man in the suit. MIJA RIEDEL: and then did you go directly to CCAC? NEIL WILLIAMS: Like, "Oh, what a beautiful red" and she would layer colors like she would painting. She'd say, "On the thing, on the thing, on the thing, you the thing, the thing, the thing." And at the same time there wasI think my ability to work on any scale fluidly helped to reinforceI mean, not that they're comfortable, they're work. Its brightness will remind you that in the gospel there is always, every day, a new chance, a new life, a new year. Like Viola said early on when I was in school, "You could go out right now and make a living off of your throwing skills alone." MIJA RIEDEL: I think that's what I was trying to get at earlier, is that straddling of the personal and the universal that works, that seems profound and present in her work. 56 0 obj <> endobj But he says, "Find that one small thing to look forward to every day." NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. And the later ones, yeahthe animated ones, where she was taking molds and recreating the dog's face or a still life. 0000005828 00000 n I mean, Viola didn't necessarily go off on abstract tangents that were required a lot of slick verbiage to flush it out. And then you practice. That's pretty great. NEIL WILLIAMS: because he worked so hard and so careful on it, but they looked magnificent. You know, and I knew Rena was fascinated by her, and intrigued by her because she told me onceshe said that it was so interesting to look back when she was younger and to see how different her and Viola's lives where. It's amazing some of that stuff was made and successfully made and not a piece got broken, and there was hundreds and hundreds of body parts travelling across country and for ceramics as a material, it traveled well, and it was successful, and it was tremendous. I thought his move to the Gold Coast was based on lifestyle change. MIJA RIEDEL: and you talked about how instrumental Rena was to Viola's career, what a difference her arrival in Viola's life seemed to make to getting her work out there. NEIL WILLIAMS: I was going to take the summer and travel and do, but they said, "No, you have to use your scholarships." She didn't encourage me to stop and nix it and do something else andbut very encouraging and learned a lot about keeping the work alive and interesting, NEIL WILLIAMS: and a part of which was making mistakes, NEIL WILLIAMS: accepting those mistakes, and, MIJA RIEDEL: Now, you graduated with a BFA in '81, and I can't tell from the CV if it's ceramics or a general craft. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. There's one on the hill behind us here that was also built from the same bricks that was one of Ernest Borgnine's ex-wife's, had assumed. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, and people from all over the world, which was really fascinating to me, because we were all on the same, kind ofunexploredit was new territory. Mario Ferrante spent time on a one-summer workshop with Wayne Thiebaud up in Lake Tahoe. These photos are dated '74. It's like the sameto me, it has a direct link to the chemical in our hearts that cause it, our cells to beat. NEIL WILLIAMS: And he's always been reallyhe's always been there. NEIL WILLIAMS: But also I think there's a great sense of humor and a take on things that's pretty broad-based. There's a calling here that is just going to be-I knew it was going to be interesting, and I knew it was going tomy sense was it could get crazy at times, but it was manageable. NEIL WILLIAMS: And, so it was immediate, but it was also reallyfascinating to me. MIJA RIEDEL: All right. But the pressure on those, I can't imagine some of them. A little more than 50 years ago, Elder Neil L. Andersen returned to his familys small dairy farm in Idaho after completing his mission to France. But before she passed away, she kept talking about "I have one of Neil's mother's drawings. On Friday 17 July 2009, Tyrone Leonard Williams rode all four winners at the Langholm Racing Association meeting at Castleholm in Langholm, just one of many flapping tracks that the former professional jockey rode at once he'd 'retired' in 2005. Larry Alberts, Mario Ferrante, all great painters. NEIL WILLIAMS: There are some that are out to tryjust to try and survive in the creative field like artists are. The burden lies on the student to learn." NEIL WILLIAMS: That'sthat makes sense to me. WebNeil Williams is a creative director with over 20 years of experience, creating award-winning multi-platform campaigns for some of the worlds leading brands. NEIL WILLIAMS: and she seemed to intuitively know how to handle her and what would be the best way for her. MIJA RIEDEL: Right. Consider following President Eyrings example, Elder Andersen told students. Besides how grateful I am to be here, and be able to look back in retrospect andI just thoughtone of the things I thought, I was saying to my wife this morning that, it seems like I've done more in my life so far than I'm aware of. Parents owned the local feed store. [Affirmative.] And Ralph Bacerra was there because he was Michael's instructor. Is there any relationship between your production work and your one-of-a-kind pieces? Viola, I know, really missed it in her life, I think, because she didn't have those connections with many people, or certainly no childhood long friends that she was close to. You part with friendships of 30 years because there's no other options, whatever. And cutting and supporting it properly, cutting it as it dries and then having it unfold or restructuring it as it dries, because the carving is a process, a multistage process, where I just don't cut it and carve it. He tried to get him to come back more, and I'm sure it contributed to him getting further out there, and eventuallyyou know his tragedy. Elder Andersen shared a quote by President Dallin H. Oaks, first counselor in the First Presidency, who taught, Members who forgo Church attendance and rely only on individual spirituality separate themselves from these gospel essentials: the power and blessings of the priesthood, the fulness of restored doctrine, and the motivations and opportunities to apply that doctrine.. [Affirmative.]. That. NEIL WILLIAMS: from Arts and Crafts, art school days, I gravitated back here. So she was very competitive, NEIL WILLIAMS: and competitive with other female artists too. NEIL WILLIAMS: and that they connected over this medium and was reallyit was really good for her too. MIJA RIEDEL: Anybody you care to mention? As an ambulance rushed him to the hospital, something unexpected happened. There's a lot of differentso I think the big influence and motivation, inspiration, is feeling my life being simpler, and the work being, like I said, cleaner in a way. A life so beautifully lived deserves to be beautifully remembered. And like I said, some of the most amusing moments is when he had vermouth in one hand and a cigarette in the other and he was ready to talk. MIJA RIEDEL: if not, how would you characterize it? NEIL WILLIAMS: And then it's lightly water-polished with a damp sponge, NEIL WILLIAMS: after it's sanded, which is the excruciating part, because you're sanding these little fine, fine tines or fine, fine feathers without breaking them. NEIL WILLIAMS: That's mine. So there's almost a quickening of the pulse, and at the same time, it's so completely familiar. I remember one of the great stories about that, about making so much work wasoh my God, when she had an open party, like a little dinner party and Richard Shaw and Arneson and Manuel Neri had come and a bunch of other people, and Rena Bransten, and, of course, who luckily was repping her by then, NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, because I just think it wasI just think the world of Rena and I. Whatever you do, just work hard. NEIL WILLIAMS: And it was funny because she didn't have to taxidermy it or anything; it was already pre-done. Was your mother interested in the arts? And how itthe electromagnetic attraction to the profound impact of what color can have on a person. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, first, my high school art teacher, Mario [Ferrante]. 0000009191 00000 n Seems that you work has, over decades, been about theme and variation, and always with a focus on color and form, MIJA RIEDEL: and, in particular, it seems the vase form, the teapot form, and the cup have been almost canvases that you have workedyou've constructed and deconstructed over decades. And, NEIL WILLIAMS: Right. And, for some reason, clay immediately. Prayer is vital to faith in Jesus Christ. I want them to have energy, maybe a little figure reference, maybe some structural reference. Go to a show and you see incrementally [ph]. Take your pick.". NEIL WILLIAMS: That's ifso if they weren't just a pair of banal, NEIL WILLIAMS: things standing there with some splashes of color on them. MIJA RIEDEL: Now would you take chainsaw, as well, or whatever the saw was that Sam was describing and cut them up that way? ], NEIL WILLIAMS: But it's at the right time and slowing down, enjoying the experience. NEIL WILLIAMS: It's mind and body. The interview took place in at Williams' home and studio in Auburn, CA, and was conducted by Mija Riedel for the Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution. I had two of them with Dorothy Weiss, and a couple others in Sacramento. Washington,DC20001, 300 Park Avenue SouthSuite 300 NEIL WILLIAMS: A lot of it being nurtured ironically by the local high school art faculty department. My older brothers had a friend who was a parolee out of Soledad. And I think it was alsoI also know that she had to delight in the fact that she was a little, short woman who was able to do that, and then splash all these great color field, you know, bring it to life with color, and still, at the time, outwork anybody around her. [. There's no need to wrap it all up in a nice little bow and put it to bed just yet. 0000116531 00000 n NEIL WILLIAMS: I always thought they had this beautiful bittersweetness to them. You don't get too wrapped up in what the neighbors say or think. But the spiritual part of itI don't really. And I said, "Viola, it was a compliment. [END OF TRACK william14_2of3_sd_track02. I don't know, like, as far as, "Oh, my gosh, I'm going to be on a schedule now, then, and I have to maintain this." MIJA RIEDEL: And you did many, many group shows [. So, that's a lot of the reason why her and I dropped off, too, after I left working for her. And, like I said, the exposure and the whole role of gallery and public places, it completes the circle of experience for an artist. MIJA RIEDEL: That is an interesting detail. "Neil is a great person to work with on every level. She showed great work. NEIL WILLIAMS: because it brought in painting and color concerns, which I had no experience in. It's all very personal, it's all about the instructor. I was just a kid. Analytics cookies help website owners to understand how visitors interact with websites by collecting and reporting information anonymously. MIJA RIEDEL:sides, but are theredo you also see it in any kind of terms, episodes, or periods that were distinct? And he had experience in Japan. [Affirmative.] Your testimony grows as you try to look for God and for our Savior in your everyday life, in the little things., Jada Brown shared her love for a painting titled Hand in Hand which depicts a little girl walking hand in hand with the Savior. NEIL WILLIAMS: "We're going to market you under 'the bowl guy,'" he says. Gosh. You know, "The pots aren't art." We can send them to wherever school. And, "Well that was nice, but"and those are those little moments thatthey're very humbling and they're ver,fulfilling, and they have nothing to do with numbers orsuccess in a way. MIJA RIEDEL: Socialite or socialist, or both? And I owned a gallery in Sacramento briefly. NEIL WILLIAMS: Of course you do a lot ofin your studies oryou're going to work on flat pieces from now and then, but mostly all in the round. But it wasshe was soamped up on what she was able to do. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, she didn't press her to make a certain line of work. . And, it wasn't that way necessarily with painter and sculptors. This is a woman that did this work! Finally, where do you see your work fitting into contemporary art? I'm like, "No, no, no, no, no, I blame it on Dr. Seuss, that's who I blame it on. And it helps keep me grounded, of course, and itI know what I can count on with them. And I hope it doesn't lose any edge it may have. Well, Kenny Price and some other people were doing some pretty profound. MIJA RIEDEL: It sounds as if you're saying that the system itself is not well-suited to keeping vital dynamic instructors there on a regular basis. And, I'm still stuck in that, that mode. Where are we going?" NEIL WILLIAMS: It was cheaper to have me down there, apparently, even though the parents had moved up here. 0000005718 00000 n It's like, "Oh god, Viola." Is that correct? NEIL WILLIAMS: It just doesn'tI mean, it's not a priority. NEIL WILLIAMS: Varying heights. He said, "I always considered these, or conceived these as individual." NEIL WILLIAMS: But, at the same time, I don't want to get hung up in technical virtuosity, NEIL WILLIAMS: because it's kind of a sterile. We need toyou should go and spend time with this individual, no matter where they are. MIJA RIEDEL: How did you see that evolve? NEIL WILLIAMS: But I especially remember her being very patient, very thoughtful, very generous, but also very caring about Violathe bigger picture of Viola's life. NEIL WILLIAMS: And there was a beautiful Byronic, unique, verypeculiar dialogue and relationship between the two that worked in aI don't know what the word is. MIJA RIEDEL: I'm thinking about the difference between going to the studio to make your own work and, NEIL WILLIAMS: I've done a lot of work on the class, NEIL WILLIAMS: but as far as, some of them, MIJA RIEDEL: How does that affect the process? MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yes, she was there, and she hadI remember the first day of class was the morning after Richard Behrens, the glaze guru, the elderly gentleman, the wonderfulhad passed away. Any agency would be lucky to have him. A natural presenter and storyteller, Neil is a great client-facing guy and clients love him. NEIL WILLIAMS: I understand that. Does that sound accurate, or would you put it another way? MIJA RIEDEL: When I look at the list of different galleries you've been affiliated with over 20 or 30 years, there are many galleries, [that included your work MR] in a group show here or a group show there. I mean, Betty Asher was wonderful, of course, the matriarch of west coast art, and Rena kept an eye on me and was always very generous and very helpful, especially if I needed to reach out and, "Rena, I have a few new pieces I would like to be able to get some more materials," and she would buy them and resell them. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I think one of the greatit's very unusual I think for a dealer in that it wasn't about Rena. But she was talented and had a great eye. And Elmer was a fantastic painter but heit was real interesting because I was really young and didn't know a lot, but I knew he was an important painter, professor at U.C. IT consultant, Scout Leader, climber and traveller (or something like that) Milton Keynes Joined April 2009. I mean, I always think of that wonderful Gauguin painting, Tahitian women on the beach." So, thank God somebody is trying to document it all. Brown, oldyou know, '60s work. You knowis the intention of the artist clear in this piece? The first piece, you make as technically virtuoso as you can. [Laughs.]. I can do that painting. "Yes, you are." Seated on the stage with Elder Andersen during the devotional were his wife, Sister Kathy Andersen, and several BYU students who contributed personal examples and testimonies of principles discussed throughout his address. Gambling Help on 1800 858 858 or visit www.gamblinghelponline.org.au. Pretty much verbatim. NEIL WILLIAMS: And show sheand I knew there was something extremely special, and I didn't have an art background. I was content to just whoever connected with it, whoever wanted to rep it, wasRena was amazingly helpful. MIJA RIEDEL: Yeah, we'll deal with that story [later MR]. NEIL WILLIAMS: And itwe talked about itthe lan vital, the vital energyI was getting that back from the pieces. Andthey had, it was an unusual couple. "Iain Webster - Executive DirectorInterbrand, "Neil is a great person to work with on every level. 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